1. Why are you selling the system? If it truly wins, why not just keep it to yourself and play for easy profits?

Here's why I'm willing to sell my system: Firstly: I manage teams of players for a profit split, although I already have more than enough such arrangements. Secondly: I'm not the only person using systems that apply the same principles. Although I'm confident my study of the wheel is more thorough and importantly accurate, it's only a matter of time before similarly accurate and effective systems become widespread. Thirdly: some casinos have already caught on (mainly in Vegas), and are gradually making changes to roulette that make it harder to beat. If roulette wasn't beatable, they wouldn't bother with the counter-measures. While some of the counter-measures do make the system more difficult to apply, very rarely do they make the system lose. Typically all they do is make qualification procedures take longer. The vast majority of casinos are still not applying such critical counter-measures, so the system will still be effective for a long time to come. Fourthly: even if I didn't manage teams of players for profit splits, my businesses and investments now provide more than enough income without the "need" for the system, You should also visit www.genuinewinner.com/aboutme.htm which has further information about me. Fifthly, for my players to receive the full benefit of my system(s) and expertise, they must send me a set of spins from specific wheels for analysis and the development of custom variants. Custom variants are like different systems for specific wheels only - they are a set of pattern types and patterns for specific wheels and cannot be applied on just any wheel. Although part of my custom-made software (which enables me to uncover a specific wheel's patterns) is provided with my roulette computers, I will never release the software in its entirety, or detailed secrets that enable the development of custom variants. This way, I am not sharing "all" of my secrets with either casinos or competitors. So effectively, I'm only selling part of my system, not the whole thing. Although this means my players rely on me for ongoing support if they are to maximize their profits, it is necessary to protect both my interests, and that of my players. If I released "all" of my secrets, my competitors and the casinos would certainly like it, but then it would make it easier for casinos to implement changes to roulette that make my system more difficult to apply. Also if I were to release "all" secrets, it would also enable casinos to refine their own pattern tracking software so they better know when a wheel is beatable - this would directly affect my players. Understand that obviously casinos hate to lose. And if they find out exactly how people are winning, they'll of course do what they can to stop it. Finally, although it is entirely optional, I ask my successful players to make a financial contributions to my non profit organization which funds energy research - the web site of which will be at www.universalsymbiosis.org soon. I do not receive one cent from these contributions. Players of course don't need to make donations but generally appreciative players are willing to do so.

2. If roulette was beatable, why does everyone say it's a game of pure chance?

Because these people don't know what they're talking about. I've personally seen cars that run on invisible energy and even weirder things. I've even seen someone burn paper from static electricity generated through their hands. Why is it so hard for people to believe a little ball and wheel is beatable? The house edge is only slight, so you only need to predict with slight accuracy where the ball will land and its not that difficult! If roulette wasn't beatable with techniques such as mine, then casinos wouldn't apply counter-measures. Using my system you first predict in which half of the wheel the ball will fall. And if you do it correctly, more often than not, you can correctly predict in which half of the wheel the ball will land. You only need around 60% accuracy (6/10 times) to clearly beat the house edge. And you only need to bet on one number on that side, and the house edge is beaten. Why is that so difficult to believe?! It's just that so many have gone about it all wrong, producing nothing but garbage, so it's easy to assume roulette is unbeatable.

3. I understand you send your players regular updates. What are the updates?

Usually they are only clearer explanations and FAQs that make things clearer. But more importantly, they include details on how to overcome new counter-measures that an increasing number of casinos are applying. These updates ensure my system (including all variants) remains effective. It is also important for you to understand that each wheel has it's own set of pattern types and actual patterns (different variants), so effectively it is not just one central system - it is more like an independent system for each specific wheel.

4. What support do you offer?

Phone, email and in-person support - you are not just paying for documents, you paying for my time and expertise. Sometimes a player will find counter-measures at their local casino are too ridged for the application of one variant, although it may be impractical for them to simply travel to another casino. This is where my support is critical. If a particular variant can no longer be applied and you can't travel to another casino, then I develop another variant for you to ensure consistent winnings. Typically to develop variants and uncover patterns, players simply send me spins and I do the rest.

5. How did the system first come about?

The system was inspired by a gambler who was caught using an electronic device to predict where the ball will land. It utilized pure physics and the dynamics of the wheel. Such a device is illegal in many casinos, although he made over $100,000 in a very short period of time. He was caught because he got greedy and drew too much attention. I also offer such electronic devices which are wholly a result of my own research and development. My system uses similar principles, although it’s simplified and based more on repeating patterns generated by a wheel's fixed properties, and it's completely legal in all casinos as no electronic devices are used. However, I also offer the actual electronic devices as at www.genuinewinner.com/computer.htm

6. Are you able to get me one of the electronic devices?

Yes, I offer them at www.roulettecomputers.com

7. Why is your system so expensive? I can buy other systems for far less!

The simple answer is YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Any system you purchase will either win you money, or lose you money. Most other systems will lose you money, but mine is a long term winner that produces a profit even after millions of spins. Once you learn my system, you could easily make back your investment in a day or so. If you think it's expensive, you have very unrealistic expectations of what a genuine winning roulette system should sell for. If you, like me, had more than enough income from multiple income streams so you could afford to sell a genuine winning system, what price would you set? You can spend thousands purchasing worthless systems before you finally realize there's only one way roulette can be beaten (physics), or purchase my system which, although it costs more than other systems, is the last system you'll ever buy. Furthermore if a particular variant becomes ineffective at your local casino, I'll develop an independent custom variant for you at no extra charge - this ensures you will always have a winning system/variant. If you expect to find a genuine winning system for $50 or so, you are kidding yourself. My system is what I say it is. It's not for part-time players or entertainment purposes. It's not a system that only wins in the short term. It is an income source and investment that can easily pay for itself within a day or so of playing.

8. What about rumors that your system's requirements make it impractical?

The key principles of my system (cause and effect) have not and never will change - in this sense, they are perfect. However, wheels can be qualified and patterns determined by a variety of different procedures. The different qualification procedures and pattern definitions are called system variants. Which variant you use depends on your casino's specific wheels, their design features, and counter-measures that your casino applies. Understand almost every wheel has easily detectable patterns, but sometimes different methods must be applied to detect the patterns, not to mention to determine the different types of patterns which are often far more complex that the primordial variant patterns. The variant that started the rumor uses the primordial variant patterns (which involves more simplistic patterns) and has strict and narrow rules and requirements. It was intentionally as such to offer greater security for inexperienced players and more assured profits (to make it foolproof on unspecific wheels), but unfortunately stricter requirements also mean qualified tables are more difficult to come by. This is where the rumors came from, although no-one debated whether this variant worked. In response to this feedback, the primordial system document now includes the original primordial variant, plus another variant (a variation of the primordial variant) specifically designed to make qualification and application procedures simpler for unspecific wheels, whilst enabling qualification of the clear majority of wheels which is useful if you are travelling and visit a casino with wheels you don't have customized variants for. Since the updated primordial variant has been released, no player has had difficulty in qualifying wheels or applying the system on unspecific wheels. Furthermore, custom variants ensure greater accuracy and importantly optimal ease of application and practicality, although they must be played only on the specific wheels they are designed for. For professional play, custom variants are all you should use - they're extremely simply to apply and in most cases can be mastered within 30 minutes.

9. If dealers intentionally spin at inconsistent and fast wheel speeds, does the system still win?

Yes of course, but understand that faster wheels bounce the ball more erratically which generally reduces the accuracy of predictions. In other words slow-medium speed wheels are best. For the system to outright lose, the wheel would have to be spinning abnormally fast (i.e. fast enough for the ball to be occasionally flung right off the table, and this very rarely happens). Even if you use computers to make predictions, the faster a wheel spins, the more erratically the ball bounces, the less defined patterns are, and therefore the less accurate the predictions are. So in simpler terms: the faster the wheel, the less you win. For this reason, the slower the wheel the better. As for inconsistent spins, understand dealers are usually taught to deliberately spin at inconsistent speeds and the system of course takes this into account which is essential to formulate a long-term winning system. The custom variants apply NINE different pattern types, while primordial variants apply just ONE type of pattern. Of the nine pattern types, only two are in any way affected by the speed of the wheel, whether it be spinning abnormally fast or constantly varying speed even during a spin. For the remaining seven pattern types, spin speed and varying speeds between spins is completely irrelevant. Understand there is very little casinos can currently do to make the system fail especially with custom variants.

10. I heard your system works but it's difficult to place the bets in time. Is this true?

You use the discrete credit-card sized charts that instantly tell you where to bet on the next spin. Reading the chart literally takes a second or two, so anyone that claims it's difficult to place bets in time or to determine where to bet next either does not have my system and is merely passing rumors, or has not fully read my system document(s) and understood my system. Determining exactly where to place bets actually takes less time than placing the bets themselves - this is because the betting cards instantly tell you exactly where to bet on the next spin. The system predicts where on the wheel the ball will land. You can cover as many numbers in this area as you like. Most players using my system cover 8-11 numbers per spin. The more numbers you cover in this area, the more "frequently" wins will occur although your actual "edge" doesn't change. But the more numbers you cover, the more time it takes to place your bets. If with my system you can't place all bets in time, simply cover less numbers so it takes you less time to place your bets.

11. Do I have to place bets after the dealer spins the wheel and ball?

No. Bets are placed BEFORE the dealer spins the wheel and ball, not after.

12. How can you possibly predict where the ball will land BEFORE the dealer spins?

It's not magic. It is averages of patterns, or more specifically intersecting averages of repeating patterns generated by the fixed features and physical properties of the wheel. These intersections are accurate enough to beat the house edge, otherwise you simply don't play at the table and look elsewhere. If you think it's impossible, you need to think along the lines of many spins rather than just ONE spin. Understand we are taking advantage of long term and repeating patterns. When you have my system and custom variants, you'll see and understand exactly how it is achieved. Also consider if it simply wasn't possible, then casinos wouldn't bother applying counter-measures to beat systems such as mine.

13. How difficult is the system to learn and apply? Can a complete novice apply it?

Even a complete novice or child could learn and apply my system. Even if you are completely new to roulette, I still offer all required support to assist you. All variant documents include clear explanations, images, charts, diagrams and actual examples. You can easily learn, practice and be ready to apply the primordial system(s) within a day (if you consider a day 8 hours of work, like a 9-5 job is), although I advise players to take their time and practice over a number of days before playing for real. As for custom variants, there's very little to learn because it is simply a set of pattern definitions, simple procedures and betting cards relevant only to specific wheels - you can learn and be ready to apply a custom variant easily within an hour in most cases. You are not required to memorize the wheel or learn anything complicated - you just follow simple procedures and rules that ensure long-term winning. If a complete novice and a veteran of my system played on the same table, each would make the same bets and win the same amount.

14. Do I need to apply any mathematical calculations or arithmetic?

For the primordial variant, during qualification you need to apply very minimal arithmetic which is part of the qualification process, although it's the equivalent of about grade 3 mathematics and takes seconds. For custom variants, all the hard work is done for you so there are no mathematical calculations to be made - you just read the cards and place your bets. Besides being able to read English, there are no other educational requirements - anyone can learn and apply my system.

15. Are the cards complicated? Can they be memorized?

The cards are simple to read and can be memorized if you are prepared to take the time. An equivalent task would be like memorizing about half of the times tables. Although if you prefer, simply copy the contents of the cards to the paper casinos usually provide you with so you can be sure you wont arouse any suspicion.

16. Is your system like a visual ballistics system where you have to visually predict where the ball is going to land?

Some variants incorporate a bit of visual ballistics techniques, but this component is very rarely used. Being able to bet after the wheel is spun is obviously an advantage, although not all casinos allow you to do this. Typically every bet a player makes with my system is made before the wheel is spun.

17. Without purchasing, If I send you a set of spins, can you tell me how your system would have performed?

My software uncovers patterns and gives me an indication of how defined patterns are, and "how profitable" a wheel is. But as yet it doesn't specifically run simulations that tell you exactly how much you would have won after a set of spins. If I could tell you how much you would have won at the click of a button, I would. But simulations must be done manually which takes time I don't have, especially when there's no guarantee curious people can even afford my system. Even if you send me just a few spins and ask me to predict the next numbers, the predictions wouldn't tell you anything about the long-term effectiveness of my system. To determine long-term effectiveness, I suggest visiting me for a 3 hour demo under the conditions at www.genuinewinner.com/demo.htm. However, if you have a set of spins (from the same wheel) that comply with the requirements at www.genuinewinner.com/custom.htm, I can at least tell you "how" beatable a specific wheel is.

18. I would like to see a personal demonstration and meet you in person - can it be arranged? What about having you test your system against my spins on paper?

YES, demonstrations can be arranged but first understand the following: with my standard roulette computer, you could see its effectiveness within just 1 hour without any doubt in your mind and I'll receive a $5,000 sale for my time. But an effective demonstration of my standard roulette system (the standard system, not the computer) may take hours (usually 3 hours of explanations and spins for you to be completely convinced without lingering doubt) but I only receive a $2,500 sale. A $5,000 sale (standard computer) for 1 hour of demonstrating is worth my time, but a $2,500 sale (standard system) for 3 hours of demonstrating is not quite worth my time. This is why I previously only demonstrated my computer. If you only want a demo of my standard roulette system (not the computer), this is fine if you agree to pay $5,000 at the conclusion of the demo assuming the terms are met. Too often I have encountered time-wasters that obviously never even had the funds in the first place. So all demonstrations now involve the following procedures:

Remember if you would like a demonstration of my standard system and not the computer (takes usually 3 hours instead of just 1 hour), you must agree to pay US$5,000 at the conclusion of the demo if the terms are met. This ensures my time is not wasted, and that you only pay me if you see the proof. If I don't show you the proof, you pay nothing. This is as fair as it gets for both sides. There is no risk on your part.

Hire of security personnel and the venue are not free, and are at my expense. BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE HONEST, I can risk hauling a 70kg wheel around Melbourne for nothing, I can risk meeting with time-wasters, and I can risk wasting money on hiring the staff and booking the venue. But no demo will take place outside the above procedures because I want to limit the possibility of meeting with time-wasters. My demonstrations are intended for the 99% of people which are honest. Please, if you are not serious, don't waste my time.

As for testing my system on paper with your numbers, this cannot be done with the computer because it needs to take timings of a real wheel (unless the second application is used which is another story). And testing numbers (of any significant volume) on paper is even more time consuming than personal demonstrations for my standard roulette system. But I understand not everyone is able to travel to Australia for a demo which is why I have posted a video of the actual application of my system at www.genuinewinner.com/proof.htm. A video of my computer's application will be available soon, as will a longer video of my standard roulette system. They will only be available on DVD because longer videos would mean huge and impractical downloads.

NOTE: If you prefer, demonstrations of the standard roulette system can be done over just one hour (instead of several hours) which would make it more worthwhile for me if you are to pay only $2,500 (not $5,000 for the longer demo). Although please be aware for any effective demonstration, and for you own confidence in the purchase, a demonstration really should be done over several hours. But if an hour of spinning the wheel is fine with you, it's fine with me - after all it's YOU that needs to be convinced. You will only pay me $2,500 if the mutually acceptable terms of the demonstration are met. They will be done only in person and under the same general terms as other demonstrations (such as you showing you have the funds with you before the demonstration commences).

19. Have you ever been banned from casinos?

No, and that's not because I don't win - it's because I blend into the crowd. I don't maintain massive and impressive stacks of chips, I don't try and win excessive amounts at one time, and I don't act like a high-roller - to do so is stupidity. How to maintain a low profile and blend in and avoid detection is explained in my primordial system document. This is important for you to learn because if you're banned, your winning streak will end at that particular casino. However specifically with online casinos, your winnings are easier for casinos to track. There are various methods to completely avoid detection which are detailed when you receive the system. They are not explained in detail here simply because this is a public site, and publicly disclosing that information would be telling the casinos. But understand if especially online casinos banned players so readily, word would quickly spread about it and the casino would lose players because of a reputation that they don't pay and are unfair - this would harm a casino more than it would by a player taking an acceptable amount.

20. If roulette was beatable, wouldn't the casinos would be out of business?

If casinos could be beaten by the MAJORITY of players, then they would be out of business. But for now there are far more losers than winners. And IF they find consistent winners, they ban them - pure and simple. I've never been banned because I've never done anything stupid to make me suspicious.

21. What's the most I could lose with your system?

You place only flat bets, and because you beat the house edge, losing only occurs in the short term and losses are minimal. If you apply the system(s) correctly, it is virtually impossible to lose in the long term. By reading the primordial system documentation alone, you will understand exactly why you cannot lose in the long term - even before you actually apply the system. If you lose at any time, simply follow the precise and simple procedures, and you will recover losses. Understand it is a long-term winning system, but anything can happen in the short term.

22. How can I know your system works without first sending you money?

Visit me for a personal demonstration which lasts for 2-3 hours. If you can't, the next best thing is to take the time to thoroughly read my site (especially www.genuinewinner.com/proof.htm) then contact me with all the questions you like and get to know me on a more personal level. Because my system is what I claim, I will do anything within reason to prove it to you. What more do you want? As an open invitation, you tell me, what else could I do to convince you? When something is legitimate, it can easily be proven.

23. Does the system come with a Money-Back Guarantee?

YES. Click Here for Details, although I'm sure what you really want to know is if my system is for real. And the best way to determine this is by visiting for a personal demonstration.

24. There are a lot of systems for sale on the Internet that simply don't work. Can't you offer more buyer security if I purchase your system?

What more do you want? I offer a personal demonstration and a 1 hour demo video. I offer a very appealing money-back guarantee. My site provides detailed information on how roulette is beatable. I'll always answer your questions and address your concerns in detail before you purchase. And details of proof are at www.genuinewinner.com/proof.htm. If that's not enough, you tell me what would make you more comfortable, but please don't ask to have the system for free.

25. I've been burned so many times by purchasing other systems. Your system has the same hype as others. Why should I trust you?

As I said earlier, there's probably nothing I can say that you haven't heard before. But how many others tell you exactly how and why roulette is beatable? How many others use real-life physics instead of useless statistical information such as the law of a third? And how many others offer a personal demonstration before you buy? Do all the research and ask all the questions you want if you are skeptical. How to determine if a system is likely to fail or succeed, without actually purchasing, is explained at www.genuinewinner.com/avoid.htm.

26. I still don't know exactly WHO you are, so how can I trust you with my money?

Keep in mind I publish my home phone number at www.genuinewinner.com/contact.htm, and before you submit payment, you receive the details of my my bank account that is with The Commonwealth Bank of Australia which verifies my Australian residence. The bank account is in the name of my Australian corporation, of which I am a registered director, all verifiable with Australia's law enforcement agencies. My corporation was registered in 1999, and I have several businesses that operate under the same trading name - my corporation is the main reason why I don't "need" my system. I do not at all hide who I am, nor am I in any way trying to scam you. If I was trying to scam you, I would do many things differently.

27. Is the sale of your system and/or electronic device LEGAL?

Yes, I have a written statement from the Australian gaming authorities (that can be provided upon request) clearly stating the sale of gambling systems and electronic devices is not illegal. However in Australia, although the use of "gambling systems" is not illegal, it is illegal to actually use the electronic device in casinos. Purchasers of my computers are expected to do their own research regarding legalities.

28. If the table changes dealers, does this affect the system's ability to win?

With the primordial variants, sometimes. With the custom variants, almost never.

29. Does your system rely on wheel bias?

NO, although my custom variant software still searches for any bias - it would be silly not to because it is a pattern that, although is very rare, does occur. However my system does not rely in any kind of bias. My system was developed for unbiased wheels (which is almost every wheel in today's casinos) otherwise there would be little point to my system.

30. Is your system based on dealer signature?

Firstly understand there are two types of variants: the primordial variants, and custom variants. Dealers are one of the factors that contribute to patterns when dealing with the primordial variants, although this does NOT mean you must stick to the same dealers for the primordial variants to win consistently, as you can see in the online video provided by one of my players. As we want to take any advantage we can to overcome the house edge, the custom variants also take dealers into account (but it is not essential) - 7 of the 9 custom variant pattern types have absolutely nothing to do with dealers. Regardless, for custom variants it is still beneficial to collect spins from a narrower selection of dealers (such as dealers that spin the wheel slower) as this often helps reveal patterns that alone can be used to gain a slight edge. The core of custom variants is the patterns generated by the fixed physical features of specific wheels. Even wheels of the exact same design will exhibit different patterns, so while patterns are generated by "designs", they are also generated by subtle and invisible differences between specific wheels. For more information, see www.genuinewinner.com/custom.htm - this is where my players submit spins for custom variants. You will see while using the same dealers is recommended, it is not essential. In simpler terms, my systems use dealer signature patterns if they are present, but they are not relied upon. There are many ways to beat roulette, and dealer signature is merely one of them.

31. I understand what you are saying about physics, but how does your system deal with the inconsistent velocity of ball and wheel spins without using electronic devices? After all, spins are not at the same speed.

In the simplest terms possible, it is via intersecting averages of repeating patterns generated by the fixed features and physical properties of the wheel. Explaining this in detail is like giving you the system for free. It is a secret that's an integral part of my system(s).

32. How often is a qualified wheel found?

Typically players will qualify 30-70% of tables/wheels they encounter. This means the system will say either yes or no to playing on 30-70% of wheels. With a custom variant, you can play on any wheel it is designed for, but you are best to concentrate your efforts on the "most" profitable wheels. Importantly, understand that just about any wheel can be beaten, but it is more a matter of focusing on the wheels that are easy and practical to beat.

33. How long does it take to qualify a table?

This depends on the variant you use. With the primordial variant(s), in most cases it only takes 5-15 minutes once you become competent with the system's application. Worst case scenario (on wheels that are very difficult to beat) is a day or so (about 8-12 hours) although if you take this option, you should not need to qualify the wheel again for weeks, meaning you can simply resume play each day without further qualification. If you use a custom variant, then you just send me spins from a specific wheel and I do the qualification work for you - all you need to do is follow the patterns I uncover for you, and bet accordingly. With custom variants, you can simply resume play at any time without further work, although you should send me a new set of spins for analysis every few weeks because gradually the physical properties and patterns of specific wheels change.

34. Can you simply give me the system and I'll pay you with the winnings?

I appreciate such offers, but consider having a genuine winning system that you worked tirelessly to develop. I understand you may very well be honest, but with the amount of dishonest people throughout the Internet, would you risk being not at all compensated if you were me? I'm sorry, but if you want my system you must first compensate me with the asking price as all my players do. I'm a generous and trusting person but I certainly have my limits. Many people have tried to get my system for free by deception. But understand even if you're honest I simply will not give anyone my system without first being compensated under any circumstances. If you want proof, then I suggest an in-person demonstration explained at www.genuinewinner.com/proof.htm which is as good as proof gets.

35. Do I have to look at the betting cards all the time?

The cards tell you where to bet so they're necessary unless you memorize them which is what some players prefer to do. You can also transfer their contents to the inconspicuous paper that casinos provide you with at the tables - the casinos themselves provide you with this paper so it does not arouse suspicion.

36. If I buy your roulette computer, can you let me know where it's legal to use?

If you buy the super roulette computer, my solicitors will investigate for you and provide written information at no charge to you. If you buy the standard roulette computer, you must do your own investigations, although you can simply ask the local gaming authorities of the jurisdiction in question. Often the laws only state nothing can be used to FORCE the outcome of spins, but not that instruments can't be used to predict outcomes. Laws between jurisdictions vary.

37. Does your system REALLY work? Can I honestly expect to earn a living by playing roulette?

YES. With the correct variant, you can expect to earn consistent profits that are more than large enough to earn a comfortable living but you must have the discipline and patience to follow the system's rules. The larger your bets, the more you win so there's virtually no limit. It IS for real, although I acknowledge you've probably heard that before. I've purchased countless systems in my time, and other than my own system, I found only two others actually worked. One only gives a very slight edge to the player, but significant guesswork is required . . . The other is Don Young's system. Although where Don Young's system fails is it takes advantage of only ONE of the "indicators" that occur that let you know when and where to bet. This means with Don's system you could wait hours before ANY betting is even permitted by the system. Irrespective of whether or not Don's system works, bets are too infrequent to for the system to be practical. By following my system, you're able to detect and utilize many more patterns that exist because of the dynamics and physics of the wheel. I don't believe Don knows exactly WHY his system works (especially as his "theory" is incorrect), it merely detects and utilizes one specific pattern generated by the wheel in the Zumma tester book.

38. What is the player edge your system provides?

My system is based on physics rather than statistics - it is difficult to determine the exact '%' edge it gives you, especially as some casinos have wheels that are more profitable than others. My system provides full details of which wheels are most profitable. But under typical circumstances, if you cover 11 numbers (as most players do), you will typically win 35-55% of the spins played which clearly beats the house edge.

39. How can you possibly beat the house edge on the notoriously "impossible to beat" game of roulette?

If you think traditionally, you cannot win at roulette in the long term. Try not to think of roulette as a game of "odds and statistics" . . . it's really just a ball and a wheel, and what you need to do is determine where the ball will land. And it's done using simplified physics and defining patterns that are accurate enough to beat the house edge. A winning system must account for how the diamonds affect spins, key indicators, centripetal and centrifugal forces, selecting the best dealer, and most importantly it must let you know how to determine patterns and bet accordingly . . . this is exactly what my system does. Click HERE for more information about beating the house edge.

40. But HOW is physics applied to determine where the ball will land?

My system is a simplification of the physics. There are numerous physical factors that determine where the ball will land - this should be obvious to anyone. And over time, these physical factors create patterns that repeat. After all, components like the pockets and diamonds don't change over time. The primordial variant enables you to identify one type of pattern. But to identify more accurate patterns and for the development of custom variants (with more accurate patterns), players simply send me spins for analysis. You do not need to know anything about the physics itself - you only need to follow simple procedures and use the betting cards.

41. What physical factors of the wheel and ball are considered?

Everything imaginable including ball size, weight and material, pocket depth, wheel size, wheel slant, wheel construction and more. As the patterns are essentially what matters, you don't need to know anything about the physical features. However, by selecting wheels with the correct design features, you can concentrate your efforts on wheels that are "most likely" to exhibit defined patterns and qualify.

42. Can you give more information or an example of the physics involved?

One of the many factors that contribute to where the ball will land is the wheel slant - the greater the wheel slant, the more defined the patterns and the more predictable the spins. Why? Because, in simple terms, when the ball loses momentum and falls onto the movable part of the wheel, the ball's trajectory is steeper so how the ball reacts with the wheel (on average) is more predictable than what it would be with a lesser slant. In turn, and in combination with other physical factors, this contributes to repeating patterns. But you do NOT need to know this or any of the other factors to apply the system and win - you do NOT need to know anything about the physics involved. To win, you only need to apply the system, its simple rules, and let the betting cards tell you where to bet.

43. Is there anything a dealer can do to decrease my chances of winning?

Yes. The faster the wheel, the more difficult it is to beat. This is because the faster the wheel spins, the more erratic and unpredictable the jumping of the ball is. Although even on fast spinning wheels, patterns are still apparent although not as defined, not as predictable, and therefore not as profitable. However, very rarely have I come across wheels that spin too fast to beat. How fast is too fast? . . . it depends on the wheel, but typically anything with more than 1.5 complete revolutions per second.

44. Does your system ever lose?

Every system has losing streaks but it's the long term that counts. A genuine winning system produces a profit even over thousands of spins. This is exactly what my system does. You winning in the long term with my system is as sure as you losing in the long term with a system that doesn't beat the house edge.

45. How much do I need to play?

The system predicts the area of the wheel the ball will land. It doesn't predict it with "perfect" accuracy, but with enough accuracy to clearly beat the house edge. To win in the long term, you only need to bet on ONE number in the predicted area. But you can cover as many numbers as you like, so you can safely play with anywhere from $50 - $200. Exactly how much typically depends on how defined patterns are. The more numbers you cover, the more frequently wins will occur although covering more numbers does not change the "player edge".

46. What do I bet on?

You place bets on individual numbers (inside bets). The system predicts which AREA of the wheel will spin next with enough accuracy to beat the house edge, so even betting on ONE number in the predicted area is enough to beat the house edge. This means you can play with as little as $50 if you like, although wins occur more frequently if you cover more numbers in the predicted area of the wheel. You can cover as little as 1 number, or as many as 17, and your actual edge is not at all affected. Keep in mind in my 1 hour video demo, I cover 19 numbers simply as it's easier for demonstration purposes as the wheel is cut in half. But even in this demo if I just bet on 1 number, there would have been an exact number hit rate of 1 in 21 (as opposed to the odds of 1 in 37), so just betting on ONE number would have been approximately a 100 unit profit.

47. Is there really no progression at all?

There is no progression whatsoever although you can use the progression versions to compound winnings. Typically you play only with the same size bets. Any system that relies on progression, without first beating the house edge, is guaranteed to fail.

48. How much can I realistically expect to earn?

How much you earn ultimately depends on where you play, the wheels you play on, the frequency of play, the time you dedicate, your ability to follow instruction, and value of your units. The average player that applies my system at their local casino 1-3 days per week and 3 hours per day earns approximately $5,000 per month - CONSISTENTLY. However, players that have adequate bankroll, dedicate themselves full time, and are willing to travel to the most profitable wheels are likely to win into the hundreds of thousands and even millions. But it is impossible to state for sure that you will achieve these results, or any of the stated results, because how much you earn is obviously something you only know for sure when you actually play.

49. Does your system work on both American and European wheels?

Yes of course. Most of my players are in the USA anyway and all they can play is American (double 0) wheels. Although you should always play European (single 0) wheels where possible because the odds are better. There are different cards and systems for different wheels, although they apply the exact same principles.

50. Why is it that only certain wheels qualify? How do they differ from those that do?

About 95% of modern wheels are of a DESIGN that can realistically be beaten without the aid of a computer. Some have shallow pockets, some are deeper. Some have more diamonds than others. Some have diamonds that produce more defined patterns and therefore more predictable spins. There are many factors as explained in the primordial system document although you don't necessarily need to understand them to apply any of the variants. But of these 95% or so wheels, the system's incorporated qualification procedures tell you which "specific" wheels to play for the BEST chance of success. The qualification procedures vary between variants. But typically you will qualify approximately 30-70% of the wheels you encounter - these are the wheels the system tells you that you can "realistically" play for long term profits. In other words, while you can play on almost all wheels, the system (primordial) will automatically tell you which specific wheels you are best to play on, and which to avoid. Essentially though, the easiest thing for you to do is send me spins from specific wheels and I'll develop the appropriate variant for you which will cover the patterns and betting procedures for specific wheels.

51. Can I use your system with online casinos?

Yes, but only with live online casinos. See www.genuinewinner.com/online.wmv for a video demo of online application - the video was provided by one of my players. Live online casinos are where real wheels are used instead of random number generators (RNGs) - you simply view the real wheel via webcam. One example is casinowebcam.com and there's a list of such casinos on the right side of my site. If you're looking for a system that wins in the long term with all online casinos including RNG casinos, forget it because it simply does not and never will exist. I know it's not what you want to hear, but would you rather me lie? Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying, and probably a system seller. I recently tested my system on casinowebcam.com and with a test account I profited $4,580 within 4 hours of play. A screenshot is below. Note that test accounts are given a starting bankroll of only $100. So starting from only $100, within four hours of play, my bankroll was $4,680. A system variant was used whereby bets were increased after wins to compound profits, which clearly demonstrates the system's ability:

The same thing was done with another online live roulette casino - Dr. Ho's Live Casino. $1,000 is given as a start for test accounts. After less than two hours of play, my account was $4,030 as shown left. Click the image to enlarge.

Please note that although these are online casinos, they both use real roulette wheels. The only way you'll ever win in the long term with online casinos is if real roulette wheels are used.

Why are these tests with play money accounts? . . . Two reasons:

1. So you can verify the starting account balance.

2. Australian law does not permit Australian residents to gamble online - you can verify it for yourself. It's just another way the Australian government is keeping gambling revenue to itself.

However generally playing online is more difficult and time consuming than in real casinos. This is primarily because with online casinos, you are stuck with the wheels they use at the time rather than being able to walk around and simply focus on the "most profitable" wheel like you can in a real casino. Furthermore, particular online casinos have banned some of my players and refused to pay their winnings, so we've found some of them are dishonest. But they get away with it as they're in jurisdictions where laws are not very strict (in some cases, third world countries). The casinos excuse for banning some of my players was that the player was a wheel analyser (they know it's effective). This has never happened to any of my players in real casinos because you can win far more without the casino even knowing about it - even $10,000 per week in a real casino is generally not a lot of money. With online casinos, they can see exactly what a specific account wins and anything over $1000 per week per account is likely to draw attention, so you need to take steps to avoid detection such as having multiple accounts. If you take all the steps to avoid detection, there is no set limit on winnings at online casinos before you draw too much attention. Importantly, the online players that were banned did not follow the simple instructions to avoid detection - no online player that followed the rules has ever been banned. Although you can succeed with online casinos, play is generally more time consuming and more patience is needed. Most of my online players tend to move to real casinos once they've seen what the system is capable of because they come to understand playing in real casinos is easier and more profitable.

52. Why can't any system win in the long term against PC generated "random" spins?

With PC generated "random" spins, the ball doesn't physically land anywhere; it just appears on a screen. Although the number that appears is not technically "random", it is UNPREDICTABLE. Yes, sometimes, you can correctly predict the outcome, but NOT accurately enough to beat the house edge, and not accurately enough to win in the long term! Understand it is absolutely impossible unless you are plain lucky or psychic. Any claims that a system wins in the long-term with PC generated spins is absolutely undoubtedly false. I cannot fathom how countless roulette players still think there's a way to beat computer generated spins.

53. Is the system complicated to learn or apply?

Certainly not. With the primordial variant(s) the most difficult part is learning the qualification procedures, although you can master them within a day (individual learning curves may vary). Before you bet, there's some preliminary monitoring of tables to ensure they qualify - it usually takes about 10 minutes if you study the marquees (depending on the variant). When tables qualify, you commence play. Using the charts, it takes only seconds to determine where to bet. The custom variants are far simpler for you to apply as I do the hard work finding the patterns for you, and all you do is follow the patterns, use the betting cards, and bet accordingly.

54. Does your system apply the law of a third?

NO. The law of a third simply states that after 37 spins, approximately one third of the spins will be repeats. This is simple statistics, and no matter how you use it, it CANNOT help you beat the house edge. Of course some of the 37 spins will be repeats, but knowing this does not let you know which numbers are most likely to spin with enough accuracy to beat the house edge.

55. Does the system still win with the changes some casinos are making to roulette (the casino counter-measures)?

YES, unless the counter-measure is something like actually changing the payout odds. Changing balls mid play is a typical counter-measure but in such a case, all you would need to do is note which ball is being used - it does not at all make you lose, it's just another thing to be aware of. Counter-measures are a good indicator that the casino is aware that roulette is being beaten with systems such as mine, and they support my claims that my system legitimately beats the house edge. The primordial system document has a section dedicated to overcoming the casino counter-measures if they are encountered. You also receive free updated information on how to beat any new counter-measures. Typically counter-measures only mean qualification procedures are more time consuming, NOT that the system will lose. A good indicator to determine if your casino applies counter-measures is to see if they frequently change the type of ball. This is because the patterns change if the ball's weight or size is changed. Such a counter-measure is rare, although still easily overcome if you notice when the ball is changed.

56. How can roulette not be random?

To be technical, even computer generated spins are not "random" -- they are based on the computer chipsets although it may as well be random because there's currently no sufficiently accurate (and practical) method to predict the results of random number generators. The only exception is by studying fractals, although this only gives long-term patterns and predictions that are impractical with roulette. Furthermore, fractals generated by online roulette spins primarily display patterns that are a phenomenon throughout nature, but arguably do not predict "future" spins. Our (mankind) understanding of fractal phenomenon in nature is actually very limited, and I have not found fractal theory or applications to be of significant or practical use for roulette. I'm not entirely discounting the possibility that fractal-based knowledge or technology may be used to create a genuine winning "online" roulette system (where spins are computer generated), although if it existed, I believe it would be infinitely more difficult and complicated (and therefore impractical) to develop and apply than it has been for a roulette system based on a real roulette wheel. So if someone says their system wins in the long-term against computer generated spins, they are claiming they have discovered the key to the universe, literally.

The real roulette wheel is completely different. The ball is real; we can see it roll around the wheel. With our own eyes, we can see the logical progression of the ball - we can see it progress from when it's released by the dealer, then it slows down, begins to drop, bounces around, then falls into a pocket. This is real-life progression, often referred to as "cause and effect".

The pattern or logical progression is visible when you watch the ball because it is real, not computer generated. AND because the ball is real, and because there are real physical factors affecting where the ball lands, you can also see logical progression and patterns just by looking at previous spin results if you know what to look for. My system enables you to detect and apply these patterns. It tells you exactly where to bet so there's no guesswork. The physics and dynamics of the real roulette wheel are simplified so they're practical to apply without the aid of computers. Another way of explaining it is if you had a rubber ball that was quite distorted, and you bounced it, it would bounce in all kinds of directions that may appear random . . . but if you truly understand the ball including it's elasticity, it's shape and characteristics etc, it's not random at all. And once you realized this, and understood every factor that contributes to the ball's behavior, you could predict with reasonable accuracy how it will behave . . . but only if you knew and analyzed the shape of the ball.

The roulette wheel and ball is similar in the sense that you can't correctly predict where the ball will land all the time, but once you understand the true dynamics of the wheel and ball and every factor that contributes to the ball landing where it does, you can predict where the ball will land, not with perfect accuracy, but with enough accuracy to beat the house edge. Remember it's not perfect accuracy . . . only enough to clearly beat the house edge and that's all you need for consistent and long-term profits.

57. Does your system require you to physically watch the wheel?

With almost all variants, no. You can win solely from monitoring the marquee numbers alone. Particular variants have been tested against real-life Spielbank Hamburg spins which are simply lists of spins that tell you nothing about what the wheel physically looks like -- the test results were still clearly positive. However, you will win far more if you are able to physically see the wheel and its physical features. This is because as the primordial system document explains, specific wheel features have certain effects that make the spins more predictable. And by seeing the wheel, you can virtually instantly determine if a wheel is "likely" to exhibit predictable patterns and be beatable so you can focus your efforts on the most suitable wheels. Over 95% of casino wheels are beatable so it is unlikely you'll have any problems. In other words, you don't "need" to visually observe the wheel, although it's certainly helpful if you do.

58. How did you find the patterns to develop your system?

The simple answer is with a full study of the dynamics of wheels, its components, inertia, centrifugal and centripetal forces, and with the help of two PC applications to uncover patterns (one of which has since been replaced by a master program). I have my own roulette wheels which are used to develop and test my system and computers but ultimately I need actual spins from my players to develop custom variants for their wheels. Click HERE to download a short video of one of my PC applications at work. Only a section of the application is displayed in the video, not the whole application.

59. How can you determine where the ball is most likely to land in such a short period of time?

Firstly how long qualification takes depends on the variant. But with the primordial variants, qualification can be done in a matter of minutes. The previous spin results tell you the last 15 or so minutes of history of the roulette wheel. This is usually enough time and/or history to ascertain if the table qualifies, and if "usable" patterns are present for the primordial variants.

60. If your system loses, how much can it lose?

Losing only occurs in the short term, and as such, potential losses are minor. The following is a censored extract from the primordial system document: "Each time you qualify the table starting with step 1, you check for specific patterns. You don’t bet unless a pattern is found. And if patterns are found, you won’t lose in the long term unless they are all merely coincidental. BUT after a loss, you return to step 1. And each time you return to step 1, you verify the pattern is genuine and not coincidental. And the more you return to step 1 and verify the pattern, the more likely it is to be genuine, and the less likely it is to be merely a coincidence. This is why if you follow the rules correctly, it’s virtually impossible to lose in the long term. If you follow the rules, you may lose in the short term, but not in the long term. Remember, you beat the house edge so it's you (not the casino) that wins in the long term.

61. What size chips should I play with?

The system is easily scalable so you can bet any amount you want. But beware not to arouse suspicion or draw too much attention with enormous bets as if dealers or pit bosses see what you're doing, they're likely to apply counter-measures that make winning more difficult. More casinos are becoming familiar with my type of systems so you don't want to hasten their awareness.

62. If roulette was beatable, wouldn't it not be available in Casinos anymore?

The vast majority of roulette players still lose, and roulette is a very popular game so it is likely to exist for a long time to come. Casinos that know apply counter-measures because they know how the minority are beating roulette. If roulette wasn't beatable, they wouldn't bother with counter-measures.

63. I still don't believe roulette is beatable, and therefore, I believe this is a scam.

Every time someone says there's no way roulette can be beaten makes me remember the countless frustrating hours I've spent developing systems. At times I thought it was impossible, and at times I saw the light at the end of the tunnel then later changed my mind to believing it was impossible. Now I know for sure it IS beatable, but only with physics. If you test your systems with pc generated spins, be prepared for eternal frustration because you won't succeed. I wasted a lot of time with systems and strategies that were so wrong - most were based on statistics and patterns that had no value at all. If roulette was random, then it would be impossible to beat it in the long term. But roulette is NOT random, and that's why it is beatable. And the only way to determine where the ball will land (with enough accuracy to beat the house edge) is with physics. Roulette certainly IS beatable. I'm not a con artist - my system is genuine. My money-back plus $100,000 guarantee is completely real. If I were running a scam, the Internet would be flooded with people claiming I didn't refund their money. If I were a con artist, my players would complain to the authorities and I would be arrested. Remember, I'm in Australia and our laws are modern so scammers here don't last long. That is the least of my concerns because I know my system is a genuine winner and my intentions are honorable. Not only that, I can personally demonstrate my systems. All I can say is do your research and ask me all the questions you like, and if you decide my system is just another scam, that's what you believe.

64. Does your system work on boat casinos? After all, don't the waves and swaying make where the ball lands even more unpredictable?

The waves are not likely to reduce the effectiveness of the system in the "long term". That is because the effect of waves in the long term average out to be a flat and steady surface.

65. Your system sounds complicated. Realistically how long before I can learn it thoroughly and be able to apply it competently?

You can easily learn and be ready to apply the primordial variants within a day (individual learning curves vary). But most players have various commitments and tend to learn and practice over a week before playing with real money. Either way I suggest players take the time to thoroughly practice to ensure success. If you request a custom variant, once you send me the spins for analysis, typically I will send your custom variant within a day or so (depending on my workload). And with a custom variant, because the qualification is already done and patterns defined for you, you can begin application virtually instantly.

66. Can you put me in touch with some of your players?

Yes, although understand there are far more people wanting to speak with my players than there are players - for every one player, there is around 20 people wanting to speak to a player. This means if you want to speak to my players, I'll put you on a waiting list although it may take months before you are in contact. Yes that's a long time, but keep in mind my players don't get paid for speaking to you and others and have lives of their own, so its unreasonable for anyone to expect them to speak to strangers that are interested in my system. Not everyone is permitted though. It is only permitted for serious inquirers because there are a lot of merely curious people that I don't want bothering my players and wasting their time - my players did not pay $2,500 to call strangers and take their calls. Visit www.genuinewinner.com/speaktoplayers.htm for details.

67. What can I expect to receive when I purchase your system?

You'll receive the primordial variants which are in a password protected e-book format. The document can only be registered on one specific computer. This document also includes various tracking features to ensure unauthorized distribution can be tracked - two of which is slightly different wording which is noted before the system is delivered, and images with encrypted tracking codes. Unfortunately such precautions are necessary to ensure any individuals that may unlawfully distribute it can be prosecuted. Players then send me actual spins from their local casino for analysis and development of custom variants - this is essentially the bulk of what you pay for as custom variants provide optimal accuracy, profits, practicality and ease of play. So in simpler terms, you receive the primordial variants (for play on unspecific wheels), and then you send me spins from specific wheels to ensure greater ease of play, greater accuracy, and greater profits. The primordial and custom variants are entirely different and not to be confused.

68. Why is your site and sales material so professional? It looks like you're a marketer, not someone that has a genuine winning roulette system.

Actually I'm both a marketer AND someone that has a winning roulette system. I own both www.site-promotion.com and www.leadwhiz.com. I've been developing gambling systems practically all my life. Why? . . . because I've always known a genuine winning system is ongoing revenue for life - this is simply smart business. Most of my work was done when I was not as wealthy, so I had more of a need for a winning system, unlike my present situation. And just because I can create professional sites doesn't mean I'll intentionally create unprofessional material to conform to what people expect. All my adult life I've been operating businesses, both offline and online. My profession by trade is a copywriter and marketing consultant. Furthermore I'm considered an expert in the field of alternative energies, and actively assist in the development of alternate fuels and related technology. I am a self-funded energy researcher. I own two very well established online advertising networks through which I generate and sell advertising inventory among other things. One of my agencies is one of the Internet's longest-surviving advertising firms. Through my companies and with my business interests, I have become wealthy and do not need to apply my roulette system. My intention is not to boast; I'm merely addressing concerns raised by interested players.

69. What can you tell me about yourself as a person, such as personal interests?

Before anything, I am an energy researcher. I am wholly self-funded from my businesses and investments. The development of gambling systems began for me as a possible income source, especially to fund energy research. Roulette is one of only three methods I have succeeded in with finding a reliable method for revenue generation via gambling (Roulette, Blackjack & Sports Betting). However, it is no longer required as my business interests now provide ample income while providing me with time to continue my energy research. Most of my gambling system research focused on beating roulette primarily because roulette as a gambling game has been propelled by the very secret societies that are responsible for retarding the development of new energy technology (this is another story!), and I thought it appropriate to fight back by funding my research with tools used to reduce mankind's progress for selfish reasons. I understand to some this would seem rather out of context with my site, but I'm merely addressing questions I am asked. More about me is at www.genuinewinner.com/aboutme.htm

70. Other than roulette, how else can I earn a living with gambling?

I have developed and tested systems and methods for virtually every casino game and form of gambling. Other than roulette, I only found two other ways where it is realistically possible to earn a living gambling: Blackjack Card Counting, and Sport Betting. However with blackjack, unless you use electronic card counters or are super-competent, you can only very slightly beat the house edge so your profits are not significant. And with sports betting, there is a method to ensure virtually guaranteed profits although the profits are not as large. I can offer further information about these avenues upon request, although my roulette system still provides the most practical and profitable solution without the aid of electronic devices.

71. Do you offer an unconditional 30 day guarantee?

Most system sellers offer an unconditional guarantee, but most systems are frauds. The guarantee is merely there to convince you to buy. It doesn't mean the system seller will actually honour the guarantee though. If a system seller lies about their system and you need to request a refund, what makes you think they'll be honest and give you a refund when you ask? My point is a guarantee is only effective as long as the seller is honest, and if you need to request a refund, then you know the seller is dishonest. Frequently I'm contacted by people that have purchased other systems due to the guarantee offered by the seller, but when they actually request a refund, the seller either doesn't respond or makes it very difficult to receive the refund. By giving refunds only to the most persistent purchasers, such frauds are able to avoid the authorities and stay in business. Irrespective of most purchasers wanting an unconditional customer satisfaction guarantee, the only guarantee I provide is explained at www.genuinewinner.com/guarantee.htm, and I can offer it with complete confidence because I know for a fact my system is what I claim. I am not selling some ordinary product or e-book, so I wont give "unconditional guarantees". I know offering unconditional guarantees will increase sales, but it also gives dishonest people the chance to falsely claim my system fails and therefore receive my elements of system for free, including my advice and time which is unrecoverable.

72. I understand you say a system that wins against PC generated spins cannot exist. Why not? And can you suggest anything that just might make such a system a reality?

Believe me I've tried, and concluded it's impossible with our current understanding of the universe. That is because with random number generators, there is no way to predict spins with enough accuracy to beat the house edge. You can find patterns, but they are naturally occurring patterns and you can't predict these patterns before they occur. But if you are set on beating all online casinos, I suggest the following avenues: 1. Development of a system that maximizes winnings during winning streaks, and minimizes losses during losing streaks (but you still rely on old-fashioned luck to some degree). 2. Development of human abilities including psychokinesis, telekinesis and precognition, which (if you care to thoroughly research the issue) are reality, although very rare and poorly understood. 3. Researching the number 0.618 - the golden mean.

73. Are there conditions where the system cannot be applied?

Yes. The most important one is if the wheel is of specific designs, although such designs are rare - I've never before come across such wheels. Otherwise the most common adverse condition is a very fast spinning wheel. If dealers see you acting suspiciously, the pit boss may instruct them to increase wheel speed. The faster the wheel, the less defined patterns are, and the the more difficult it is to beat - this is the case also with roulette computers.

74. Are there many variables the system takes into account?

Yes, many, although you don't need to understand them - you only need to follow simple rules and procedures for your particular variant. Although the primordial system document explains the important variables, many have not been detailed to avoid confusion. But again you don't need to understand the whys and hows of the variables - you only need to follow simple rules and procedures that anyone can apply.

75. Won't using cards and charting arouse suspicion?

If you fumble and appear rushed, and qualify the wheel (charting) right in front of them, yes. But you take the marquee numbers from a distance and do your charting away from the wheel. Then only if a wheel qualifies, you approach the table to place bets. When you reach the betting stage, the cards tell you where to bet - these cards alone rarely arouse suspicion. The primordial system document has a section dedicated to teaching you to blend in and not be noticed. But if you're concerned, take the time to memorize them so you don't need them. But the simplest thing to do to avoid arousing suspicion is to simply copy the contents of the betting cards to the paper casinos provide you with at roulette tables.

76. I'm tired of being cheated. No B.S., what can I realistically expect from your system?

If you intend to earn a living by playing my system, you should know the following: You're probably thinking that if you have my system, money will just fall from the skies without any effort on your part -- that you'd just walk into the casino, click your fingers, and make millions. But although my system is exactly what I claim, earning a living by playing it is still no picnic... This has nothing to do with how difficult or easy the system is to apply, or how profitable it is. The biggest obstacle you will need to overcome is boredom and impatience. ANY job gets boring, and sitting at a roulette table all day is no exception -- standard employment is more difficult to walk away from than a casino so you need discipline. And boredom may tempt you to deviate from the system rules or play tables that just don't qualify. If your local casino applies ridged counter-measures, usually this only means qualification will take longer, but not that you will lose. However, although very rarely, you may encounter impossible counter-measures and need to change casinos. Yes, you can very easily earn an excellent living by playing my system, but only if you have dedication, and the ability to follow the system rules without deviation time after time despite the inevitable boredom. But one may argue that's still better than sitting at a desk working for someone else, and the revenue potential is far greater than with any standard employment so it's worth the monotony. Most importantly my method requires time and patience. If you are a casual player with not much time to dedicate, you can use the primordial variants although wheels are more difficult to qualify. If you wish to play my system full time, you should use only custom variants where collecting spins for me to analyze can often be time consuming, but you will find custom variants are more profitable and easier to apply.

77. Can anyone buy your system?

No. If I don't trust you, I won't work with you. Although custom variants are effective only on specific wheels, I have taken measures to keep all documentation from being made publicly available and will take legal action against any who try to resell or distribute them without authority.

78. What if at my casino the wheels are of a design that's difficult to beat, and my casino applies counter-measures that are difficult to overcome? Would this mean I simply couldn't apply your system?

Very rarely counter-measures do anything but create the need for a custom variant. And very rarely will you find a wheel of a design that a custom variant cannot beat. But should your local casino's wheels be impossible to beat for any reason, even with a custom variant, you still have the option of changing casinos.

79. Is your method the ONLY way anyone can beat roulette?

There really is only ONE legitimate and practical way to beat roulette, which is with the application of physics. Try all you like, but I guarantee you will never find another way. Physics can be applied in many ways, although I believe my standard roulette system's methods to be the most effective AND globally legal methods available.

80. Have any of your purchaser's failed to win with your system?

Yes, there are a few. Why? It has nothing to do with the effectiveness of my system - it is typically a player's laziness, inability to deal with monotony, or lack of discipline. While such players may agree my system wins if it is applied correctly, they don't have the patience or discipline to apply the system completely, correctly and consistently without emotion. Such players expect money to fall from the sky without any work. Understand any system is only as good as the motivation and discipline of the player. A genuine winning gambling system is not a ticket to free money without work - it is still work. If you don't have the discipline and attention-span to learn and apply my system which, although monotonous after time, is very simple and practical to apply, then don't purchase it. Understand my system is not some magic money tree system - such a system will never exist. Even roulette computers still require work and are monotonous to apply. Importantly, every player that has applied my system correctly has profited - every player. These are players that aren't lazy and have realistic expectations. These are people that know earning money requires work, even with a winning gambling system. These are the people that regularly commend me on the intelligence and effectiveness of my system and appreciate the support I offer. And these are the people that matter to me.

81. Can you state a clear % edge like Don Young does with his systems?

To quote an accurate % edge for play on all casino wheels in all casinos is IMPOSSIBLE. You can realistically only give percentage ranges. Whether or not it is just to tell people what they want to hear, Don is wrong for making the claims he does. Only the TRUTH should be told, whether or not it's what people want to hear. To develop his system, what Don appears to have done is develop his algorithms (system rules) based on real-life spins from the Zumma tester book (this book is simply a list of real-life spins). The patterns may be authentic, but only apply to those specific wheels so his system will only work on the actual wheels that generated the Zumma tester book spins . . . assuming the wheels are in the same physical condition. Don's claims of specific % edges are only with relation to tests conducted with the Zumma testing book, and they are NOT and CANNOT be an accurate representation of what players can expect at their local casino.

82. Realistically, how likely is it that counter-measures will make the system lose?

It is very unlikely you'll find a casino that applies counter-measures that make my system outright lose. If you do, play elsewhere. But typically the only thing counter-measures do is make qualification more time consuming and potentially reduce profitability. That includes if dealers deliberately vary spin timing, delay the ball release while the wheel spins, and even make the direction of wheel completely unpredictable. These counter-measures I just mentioned are rare and among the most ridged ones around, but they do not necessarily make the system lose - they typically only make qualification take longer. If you are ever in doubt, you just send me spins from specific wheels and let me do the work for you - I'll develop custom variants and tell you whether or not a wheel can or should be played.

83. Typically how time consuming is the system to apply?

This depends on the variant and how thoroughly you opt to qualify a wheel. The longer the qualification, the more assured you are of patterns, and the more assured profits are. For professional players traveling abroad and using the primordial variants, I recommend qualifying a wheel over a whole day, after which you can resume play each day without further qualification for weeks. For casual players using the primordial variants, you can qualify a wheel and begin play within minutes although if you take this option, qualification is required every hour or so. If you are playing only on specific wheels (not traveling), then all you need to do is collect spins for me (ideally 300-600) and this is the only time consuming part for you. This is because after I develop a custom variant for you, when you receive it, you can begin immediately without waiting - this is recommended for professional who play only specific wheels.

84. Can your ROULETTE COMPUTERS  be used with live ONLINE roulette?

With typical roulette computers, no. Any computer's primary application requires you to measure the speed of wheel and ball, therefore you must place bets AFTER the wheel is spun. But current online casinos stop all bets before the wheel is spun which normally makes application of computers impossible. However, my computer also includes other software that enables almost automated application of my standard roulette system, which allows you to place bets BEFORE the wheel is spun. In other words, my computer is also useful for live online casinos, and other casinos where you can only bet before the wheel is spun. No other such computer allows you to do this. In any event, if you intend to play only live online casinos or wheels where you can't bet AFTER the wheel is spun, then you may as well just purchase the standard roulette system, otherwise you're paying for features of the computer you won't use.

85. How are custom variants developed?

Variants are pattern definitions for specific wheels. Patterns can be simple like for the primordial variant, or considerably more complex. The patterns are different for every wheel. Custom variants are developed with a combination of use of my software and manual work that is too complicated to be expressed as a computer program algorithm. Development of such variants and my support is part of what you pay for. Custom variants are created at no extra charge, and there is no limit to the amount of custom variants you can request. Part of this software is for sale only with my roulette computers. To develop custom variants, players only need to send me actual spins from the wheel in question to determine the patterns. The primordial variant teaches you the most elemental patterns, but this is typically not what you will use in the real casino environment because custom variants are far more accurate.

86. Do you accept other forms of payment?

Previously I accepted credit cards (via 2co.com and paypal.com) which resulted in tens of thousands in transactions from stolen credit card numbers and hijacked paypal.com accounts. These transactions were reported to the authorities who seem to want to ignore them. The 2co.com representatives did not take further action stating reasons such as "because it's so common we just have to accept it". Paypal.com did nothing either. This is totally unacceptable especially for transactions of US$2,500 which are much larger than most Internet transactions. Wire transfers are far more secure especially for larger transactions. When you wire funds to my account, my bank lets me know exactly who you are enabling me to enforce any copyright infringements. You will also have my full bank account coordinates, making it very easy to identify me to the authorities if I were to defraud you. As wire transfers give us both full disclosure of each others identities, they are the most secure and only available payment method. You can also send an international bank draft if you choose (basically a cheque you get from your bank) - if you prefer to send a bank cheque, let me know although keep in mind wire transfers are much quicker.

87. You say covering 1 or 11 numbers doesn't change your % edge against the casino. How is this so?

Consider if you covered the first dozen which is an outside bet (numbers 1 to 12) - the chances of you winning on a spin is about 33%. Now considering covering the first two dozens (numbers 1 to 24) - the chances of you winning on a spin is about 66%. Of course if cover 24 numbers instead of just 12, you will win more "frequently", but with regards to the house edge being against you, it is no different to covering only one dozen. Likewise, with my system whether you cover 1,3, 11 or even 17 numbers doesn't change the % edge you have against the casino. Covering more or fewer numbers does not in the slightest change the edge for or against the player.

88. A competitor or just someone I emailed said they have your system and that it doesn't work (that it defies the laws of physics). What can you say about this?

Any logical mind wouldn't consider the word of a competitor about a competitor to be credible, unless detailed information is given. If someone (whether a competitor or not) claims they have my system, let me know their name and I'll tell you whether or not they have it. Anyone that truly has my system including custom variants for their specific wheels would not claim my system fails. If you ever want to know for sure whether or not my system is effective, visit me for a personal demonstration. You can also speak to some of my players although one could then argue these players potentially work for me which would explain the positive feedback, so really a personal demonstration is the only true way for you to know for sure before purchasing. Details of my demonstrations are at www.genuinewinner.com/proof.htm. Also with regards to competitors, consider how many of them offer personal demos? How many of them meet with players? How many of them will give their per