IMPORTANT: There is now a new page for you to submit spins. Email us directly for the address. We advise you to see the new page BEFORE you collect spins so you understand the information we require.Instructions:Collecting spins can be tedious, time consuming and boring. But even a winning system requires work. We understand the time and effort you put into collecting spins, so we want your efforts to pay off as much as you do, so please make sure you follow instructions and ASK QUESTIONS if needed.
Very Important: Previous versions of this page had many more fields, such as the unique identifying features of the wheel. Such fields were more for YOUR records. We no longer maintain these records manually, and they are being incorporated into the wheel analysis software. It is YOUR responsibility to maintain such records. Eventually, if you also opt to share your data, you will be able to view data from other players. Additionally, by sending us spins, all we will do is analyze them for the patterns, and develop custom variants for you where possible. However, YOU are responsible for ensuring correct application. For example, if you use format 3, then you are responsible for collecting format 3 spins correctly. We have absolutely no control over what you do at casinos. If your spins do not exhibit usable patterns, chances are there's one or more things you are not doing correctly, or failing to do. We will discuss this with you if your spins do not exhibit patterns.
There are THREE formats for spins you send us. Keep in mind formats 2 & 3 are the most effective, although format 3 requires a good understanding and an element of skill. In most cases, you should use format 2. However, most players tend to use format 1 as it's easiest, and mistakes are difficult to make. Generally if you are a new player, you should use format 1 where you merely collect spins (winning numbers), one after another as they spin.
Spin Format 1: (Used if you CANNOT bet after the wheel is spun, or if you cannot predict the wheel direction): This is simply collecting spins and writing them down as they appear. It will give you one number (spin) per line. This is the "default" method/format. For example:
1 2 3 4 etc..
For optimal accuracy of the analysis, for each direction the wheel spins, submit either 333, 666, or 999 spins (multiples of 333). This is because 1 of the 9 pattern types involves a specific cycle that is found throughout nature. It's not essential, but helps find this particular pattern type.
Spin Format 2: (Used if you CAN segregate/omit spins, or if you CAN predict wheel direction): When you use format 2, what you are doing is only writing spins that meet a certain criteria - you omit other spins that do not meet the criteria.
Spins that are "accepted" are spins where the wheel is between a specific speed range (ideally slow speeds). Additionally, accepted spins must be where the ball release speed is approximately the same speed (ideally slowest release speed exhibited). See below for more detail:
The slower the wheel speed, the better. The smaller the range of "accepted" wheel speeds, the better.The slower the ball release speed, the better. The smaller the range of "accepted" ball release speeds, the better.You are best to accept spins for only ONE direction.In other words, the more restrictive you are with spin collection, the more defined patterns will be.
While you cannot possibly determine "accurate" speeds, you don't need to. You only need to approximate. For example, you can easily see if the wheel is significantly slower on particular spins, and/or if the ball is released at a significantly slower speed.
The format used to submit spins is as follows:
(where the ball landed before being picked up and respun),(where the ball landed next)
In other words, it is two numbers separated by a comma per line, without spaces.
EXAMPLE: If the ball landed on zero, then the croupier spun again and the ball landed on 32, then you would write "0,32" on the first line (European wheel). If the ball was then spun again and the ball landed on 4, on the next line you would have "32,4". On the next spin, if the wheel was spun too fast, you would not include this spin. Consider now the ball lands on 18. If it was then re-spun and it lands on 34, on the next line you would have "18,34", making the three lines:
0,32
So essentially all you're doing is writing down where the ball came to rest on one spin, then separated by a comma, write down where the ball landed next. This is NOTHING to do with the point at which the croupier releases the ball - it is where the ball last landed, and where it landed next.
You can also separate spins into direction, so if the ball lands on 32, then the wheel spins clockwise, and the ball lands on 0, the first clockwise spin would be:
32,0
Now if on the next spin, the wheel spins anti-clockwise. If the ball lands on 2, then the first anti-clockwise spin would be:
0,2
You repeat this process, and it will give you two sets of spins: one for clockwise, and one for anti-clockwise. You then submit each group independently on the below form.
It is usually best to seperate spin directions as above for best results.
Spin Format 3: (used if you CAN bet after ball release):
This is similar to format 2, except the first number if your reference number. How to obtain your reference number is explain in the primordials document. so in the below example, "A" is the reference number, and "B" is where the ball lands (the winning number):
A,B A,B A,B
How many spins do you collect/submit? The more you collect, the better, although not everyone has the time to collect thousands of spins. For some full-time teams, 2,000 - 5,000 spins is considered normal. If this sounds excessive, consider that such teams have occasionally earned $50k-$100k+ per week.
As a general rule, if you are betting before the ball is released, you need 300+ spins for a reasonably reliable analysis. If this is too many spins for you, perhaps try one of the other methods such as visual ballistics (format 3 spins) because you can often conduct a reliable analysis in as few as 60 spins. You may also apply methods such as primordial 1 (should be your last choice), which can enable profitable play in as few as 20 spins. But be aware that primordial 1 requires you to carefully observe the wheel - you cannot simply chart blindly or you are likely to lose. There are intentionally strict rules to follow and while it is effective, quick does not mean better.
The bottom line is the more time you dedicate, the more you earn. You can use techniques that enable profitable play within 20 or so spins, and others that require 300 - 2,000+ spins. Each method has its own set of pros and cons. If you are unsure of which method to apply or how many spins to collect to achieve your goals, ask us directly - we need to know details such as your available time, how frequently you can play etc.
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